i have been doing some reading here and i am seeing for the first time that others are struggling with this awful disease and all that goes with it, just like me. <!--break-->
My husband and I have been together for 21 years, married for 15, most of them difficult. He was diagnosed ADHD as a child but has been unmedicated (for that disease, anyway) until about 9 days ago. He has taken an antidepressant for probably almost the whole time I have known him, however.
He drank tremendous amounts of beer until he decided the time had come to quit drinking (last February). Once he gave up drinking, his already too-quick temper really became a problem. Long story short - 2013 was a horrible year and I was so hopeful that 2014 would be better, but it looks unlikely.
He lost his job of 7 years in October -- he is currently on medical leave, but at the end of this month that income will stop because his employer had already decided to terminate him (for issues including his temper) before he pulled the FMLA card (2 hours before the meeting where he was to be terminated). He has been seeing a LMFT ( as am I) and that has been helpful, I can see that he has gained insight to his problems and some tools to deal with his anger issues (when he chooses to use them). So all of 2013, and with increased intensity since the late summer (before the job loss), this marriage has been exhausting me. Fights, scoldings, verbal abuse, over reactions, threats of divorce (from him) we have had it all here recently.
His therapist diagnosed, probably correctly, that a lot of his anger was due to untreated ADHD. He sought, and obtained, through his GP (another tale in itself, suffice it to say our pets are getting better medical care then my husband), an Rx for Strattera. He began taking it a week ago yesterday, and the directions were to take one capsule a day for a week, and then 2 capsules a day after that. Of course, since he knows better, he went to 2 a day after only maybe 2 days. I just now looked at the bottle of 30 prescribed 12/27/13, and there is only 1 left. He has his pill counter with him, and he probably has it full for the coming week (14 pills) but WTH? He also stopped taking Zoloft (his depression med) at the same time, and had complained of the withdrawal symptoms. I am not sure the GP wanted him to quit that (at least cold turkey), but there's no way of finding out, hardly even for the patient!
So the week started off well enough, he felt like the new drug was helping with focusing his thoughts, etc. I went off to work Monday and Tuesday, and we had (I thought) a pleasant NYE. New years day stated off with him overreacting to a situation and getting angry, but we got over it and had an ok day. Later in the week he began experiencing sleeplessness and some mood swings. I was patient with him and went about my business. He mentioned that he had read on a forum that massage was suggested to counteract sleeplessness for Straterra users (whatever).
This Saturday (today) was to be the date for an already postponed and long overdue visit from my brother, SIL, nephew and great niece. They live about 2 hours away and I had invited them over for a crab feed (before Christmas). So, all week, with the exception of the midweek holiday, I had the foolish expectation, which was supported by my husband's words (I know, right), that he would help me get the house guest ready. This would leave us free to go to the wharf in the morning, buy our live crabs, and otherwise get ready to entertain at 4 pm. I'm sure some of you can guess what happened. I came home from work yesterday to find nothing (and I mean nothing) had been done around the house. Of course he became defensive when my mood indicated my displeasure, but I went about my chores, pre-preparing food and cleaning up the kitchen and trying to leave him to himself. Later, while watching Netflix in bed, he came into the room and announced he had lied by omission, by not disclosing he had gotten himself a massage that day. Furious inside, I did not react. Somehow even without any (or very little) reaction from me on the other side of the house, he worked himself into a rage over our marriage (feeling guilty?). Repeatedly stomping across the house into the bedroom and announcing such things as: I was supposed to be patient with him while he worked out his medication adjustment issues, no one was coming over until 4 pm so he had all day to mop, etc. , "You are the one with all the problems, you have done nothing to change yourself, I am tired of taking the rap for your issues, I have identified my anger -- it all comes from you and I want a divorce." "It is too late, remember that you did nothing."
He left the house with a bag, but came back a few hours later. While he was away, I sent my brother an e-mail to cancel, and confessed that my marriage is on the rocks ( I feel like such a loser). Husband slept at least for a few hours, but was back at the verbal abuse again bright and early. So around 7:30 am he left with his bag and one of our dogs (his) saying he would be gone for the day but back tonight. I told him to stay safe. A few hours later I get a text from him telling me he is not coming back. I have begged him to reconsider and come home, but he is resolute that our marriage is over, and he will not be back. Now I see (through Facebook of all things) that he is headed to Reno (we live near the coast). What in bloody hell is going on? As far as I know, he doesn't know anyone there and although he has indulged in many addictions in the past, gambling is one he has always professed to not enjoy (we work too hard for our money).
Why do I even want him to come back? Like many of you here, I have identified that he more often than not leaves me in the lurch when it comes to feeling like he has my back, showing me with actions that he cares, etc. This "what is the problem of mopping the floor (insert task here) right before the guests arrive?" has been repeated numerous times here. And far worse things than that, but I am an inefficient typist, and I bet you all could guess most of them. It seems it has never mattered to me that he will never be what I want, I still feel like an abandoned child. (one of my issues -- abandonment, I will admit it, but it does not make it not devastating)
So what do I do now? I only have 1 friend i can talk to about this. I know I have to do everything I can to take care of myself such that I can go to work and manage not to lose my job while all this chaos is going on. I hate feeling like crying and hiding under the covers but having to try to hold it together and get my job done without a bunch of screw ups. I don't know if his decision is real, or influenced by his drug adjustments, or something else entirely. Just Thursday evening, following his therapy appointment, he told me he really appreciated how I had stuck it out with him all these years when the things he had done acting out his disorder had pushed everyone else away. But today he left me and seems to really mean business this time. I am frightened and lonely and sad and ....I don't know what to do.....I just want him to come home and go to counseling with me. He agreed, we got a name, now he says it's too late.
Can anyone offer me some suggestions to get through this? Sorry it is so long.
So sad.
Strattera
Submitted by Sueann on
The first ADHD medication my husband tried was Strattera. It was a disaster! He became acutely depressed, and when he stopped (abruptly) he became so depressed he should have been in the hospital. This sounds to me like depression. "She doesn't love me. It's never gong to get any better." Since the Strattera was given by a GP, you probably won't get any help there, but you might want to alert the doctor and see if they can suggest anything.
My husband takes an
Submitted by MFrances on
My husband takes an anti-depressant too (on Adderall for ADHD). I do know you should not stop anti depressant meds cold turkey. I also know that with Adderall at least (and I would think Strattera is the same), it's a controlled substance, my husband's doctor, nor the pharmacy will refill it even one day early. If he took more than prescribed and ran out sooner that he was supposed to, I wonder how he got it refilled? Hopefully you can convince him to go to a psychiatrist that knows about adult ADHD and he can try another med for it, and get back on the antidepressant. Poor healthcare is always a problem, but a GP is not knowledgeable enough (in my opinion) to be prescribing these meds for him. Plus therapy if he is willing. Hopefully he will be. Good luck. Keep us posted.
Hugs to you honey!
Submitted by smilingagain on
If you click my username- you can read some of my comments and see that I know exactly what you are going through. Because I am going through the same thing.
my best advice- is to take care of yourself and call his bluff- not in a mean way- but just get along with your business and stay as calm as possible. No yelling or crying when ou talk to him. Just try to be neutral. Tis isn't something you can fix if he isn't willing. But your chances are better if you remain calm.
hugs to you. I know how hard this is. Hang in there and realize that even though it feels personal- this is not at all personal. He is f*cked right now. That is about it.
i wish you luck.
Thank you for your reply. It
Submitted by tourmaline95006 (not verified) on
Thank you for your reply. It is helping to tell myself it is not personal, even if I am not always able to believe that. I was hoping his therapist would help him question his choices, but i see she is on vacation and his next appointment is not until a week from tomorrow.
I can see from his facebook page that he left open on our home computer, that he has begun pursuing a high school classmate.
I will keep your words in mind as I go through my work day and try not to fall apart.
great point, smiling!
Submitted by OMT2013 on
I think the most important thing I've learned reading these forums and all the books and blogs on ADHD is this is not about me (or you, or any non-ADHD partner). It feels so incredibly personal and can reek havoc with your self-esteem. "If he's treating me this way he must not really care or love me." It's a long, hard battle to the realization that it really isn't about us. We are not blameless at all - every couple has problems and both parties need to work on their own crap. But the more dramatic stuff - the disappearing, the deflecting of blame, the lying - that's not something we should own. My friend had a tumultuous relationship for 7 years (not ADHD related but still tough stuff). She finally decided "he loved me the best way he could and as much as he could". Once she let go of the need to fix things, she was much happier and healthier.
Thanks for the great reminder!
Update
Submitted by tourmaline95006 (not verified) on
So, my husband has not come returned home yet. Tomorrow will be day 5. Without FaceBook I would be sure he is dead in a ditch, but he is playing out an embarrassing (to me) road trip fantasy for all the world to see. He has changed his status to single. I find it so distasteful, bur cannot look away. He left his page open on our home computer, so I even know who he is attempting hookups with. It doesn't even hurt anymore, not in a way it once would have. So disappointed in him. He is acting like a child. A little boy who ran away from home with his dog, 'cuz the mean lady wanted him to do things he didn't like to do. :0
I have done an excellent job leaving him alone. I texted him for the first time last night to let him know his benefits provider had sent a letter saying he had been overpaid and they wanted $3100 back ASAP (I texted a picture of the offending paragraph). He asked me to scan and e-mail the letter which I did. In my e-mail I asked if he planned to be back and on hand for a long planned 3 day flooring repair by a contractor that is set for next week, or if I would need to make some other arrangement. He has not replied.
This evening when I came home from work, there was a UPS 1 day letter (probably not anything good) addressed to him. Again, I texted him a photo. Just business. No response. (maybe his hookup was a success, he's been awfully quiet since his lunch date). Don't care. Feel sorry for this poor woman -- she looks like someone I would like. Recently widowed, probably eating up his charm.
This jaunt is unsustainable. He is driving around using a credit card (spending money I have not earned yet). From his facebook conversations, it sounds like he is going to Seattle next. There is nothing I can do but pray the damages end soon. He has to come back someday, but asking him to will only play into his defiance of me, the person who, just 5 days ago was the person he was closest to, and professed to love.
Yuck.
For something so awful, you
Submitted by lauren07 on
For something so awful, you are handling it well. I hope he comes back soon.
Wow. This hurts. In a
Submitted by HurtButHopeful on
Wow. This hurts.
In a practical note, can you call your credit card company and change your account number (if it is in your name) and then have him removed??
Oh my. Hugs to you honey.
Submitted by smilingagain on
Oh my. Hugs to you honey. What an awful thing to deal with. I agree with the other suggestions to cancel the card. You hang in there and do whatever you can to take care of yourself. Well done on keeping cool-headed. It's not easy. When he eventually returns, I would think long and hard about giving him another chance. I don't think someone who has the capacity to act that terribly can change enough to deserve another chance or should be forgiven, even if he did have the capacity to change.
I am so so sorry you are dealing with this. Hang in there and hold your head high.
If you are responsible for
Submitted by copingSAH on
If you are responsible for paying the credit card that he is using to entertain other women, you should cancel the card and reissue a new one in your name only. He is an adult and should be able to find his way back home. It makes one worry that he cannot tell that using your joint card, which you pay for, on a binge trip to see other women is so wrong on so many levels. Once he's come off of the meds, perhaps he will realize the medication made his thought processes a wreck. In the meantime, alert his doctor about this, so that the doctor does not continue providing him that particular script without him going back for another visit.
Community property state?
Submitted by sunlight on
If they reside in a community property state does it matter who is on the credit card? Debts acquired after marriage are joint, yes? I think the only way to avoid that might be a formal separation, but even that depends on the state (I don't know)? If they divorce then the debt might be dumped on him as part of the settlement but until then she could be on the hook.
Shell Shocked
Submitted by tourmaline95006 (not verified) on
I will keep this brief as spouse has left the building, as they say, and i must go huddle in bed as soon as I can.
We have some financial agreements. He asked , and I agreed, to allow him to remove his clothing, pills., etc while I was at work. All of this was by text. I did great at being detached and business like until he says he loves me , this is killing him and - "I needed to take control of my life it happened now because you saved me, nurtured me, and kept me going, without you I would be dead." and "you saved me. thank you for my life. I'll be the best person I can."
I lost it. "if you believe you are taking charge of your disorder for the first time in your life, you love me, I am the most wonderful person you have ever met, etc. why are you making this decision now. That is a terrible thing to do, repay my loyalty with abandonment, humiliation and sorrow." no answer to that.
He only took his clothes and Curly's crate (the only non elderly pet of the 2 cats and 2 dogs we shared), some other stuff that is too much detail now, and not mine. left his house key behind.
It seems he quite likely spent last night at his son's place (Folsom Lake), for what it is worth. I don't know where he went with all those clothes. He logged out of his facebook account here and changed his password. He unfriended me. He could not have had any certainty that I violated his privacy, because I cleared the history before I left the house.
I was so proud of my strength this morning and now I fee like a poor lost little girl. I have to go to bed now. I wish I would never wake up.
Oh, and
Submitted by tourmaline95006 (not verified) on
Why was I surprised that he had not rolled the garbage and recycling bins from the street for me. That is kind of funny
Good for you for findings the
Submitted by smilingagain on
Good for you for findings the humor in such an awful time. I am sorry this happened. I am sorry you are heartbroken. Be your own best friend right now. Run a hot bath, make cocoa, go to bed early, take long walks... Take good care of yourself!
now for the pep talk:
Even though it hurts, keep doing what you are doing. I am a big believer of 'fake it 'till you make it'. If you act strong and resilient, eventually you will be. Give yourself a day or two to wallow and grieve- and then you have to get up out of bed and get on with life. I know you are hurting- but recognize that he is damaged. This was not about you. You are amazing. You didn't deserve this. This is all about him and sounds mid-life-crisis, out of work existential angsty to me...
You can't fix this. But you can take back your self respect and your pride. Remember- pain is temporary, but pride and integrity are forever. You are doing the right things! However, I would have not responded to his text- it gave him the power back-to acknowledge that you feel humiliated. don't show him your vulnerability right now. that does not work on an adhd person in a tailspin. you should only show strength right now. i know that is hard. but next time you get a text like that, Ignore it! It is just more garbage, excuses, lies, mambo-jumbo. It's action that counts and his actions have been selfish, cruel, impulsive, hateful, short-sighted and disgusting frankly. Don't show him the hurt, he is causing you. Show him your strength and your resilience and that, even if he abandons you after years of your support and love and a shared life, you are going to survive and thrive. You don't need him! He needs you! and when he comes grovelling back, and i think he will, you may or may not choose to give him another chance.
take back your power, honey. how dare he treat you like that? He thinks he can do whatever to you and you will always welcome him home. make him question that, sweetie. and actuslly, you should be questioning it too... but baby steps... for now- if you can fake it, that's good enough. but honestly- enough it enough. get angry! he behaved like an absolute shit! how dare he?a. you have to perk up your pride and get a little iron in your veins and say NO MORE. I am outraged on your behalf and I have never met you.
big hugs to you, sweetie. I hope you have some good friends to support you- but don't feel like a victim. You are not a victim. You are a strong woman! He is the one who is a victim- of his own volatility... You are going to emerge from this (with or without him) stronger, wiser, healthier and happier... It's just going to take the passage of time. Every day will bring you a little more peace.
hugs. I am so sorry.