What I have come to know and understand is a difference in perception of events in my marriage.
I like things neat and tidy - not obsessive - and things put away when they are finished being used. My spouse likes everything right out where he can find it. The counter is a landing spot for anything and everything.
The trick is learning to find a way that both partners can feel comfortable.
I get very frustrated by the amounts of stuff in the backyard and oozing out of the barn. My spouse does not understand why I am bothered by his stuff.
The trick is learning to find a way that both partners can feel comfortable.
So, we ordered and scheduled the installation of some fencing in our yard so we could at least keep the stuff out of sight.. My spouse later called and canceled - because he did not feel comfortable with spending money. In this situation, I am unable to say both of us need to feel comfortable with that. It was important to me. I picked it, I scheduled it. He agreed. Then took over. I feel disrespected and controlled.
I believe it is important to share problems when they come up. My spouse believes if he didn't set out to hurt my feelings or upset me - there is nothing to discuss.
The trick is learning to find a way that both partners can feel comfortable. In this I really do not think I need to learn to accept his behavior as acceptable.
I think we need to list our household responsibilities and share them. My spouse doesn't like chores Here is a judgment by Liz - I think he is very old fashioned in his actions and thought patterns.
The trick is learning to find a way that both partners can feel comfortable. Funny thing, if we separate, he will have to do all his own stuff anyway.
I think it is disrespectful to our possessions to sit on furniture in the living room with dirty/muddy/greasy clothes. My spouse thinks if you worked all day and are tired, who cares.
The trick is learning to find a way that both partners can feel comfortable.
I am frustrated that my spouse leaves all his clothes, clean and dirty, in baskets in the basement where we do laundry. He took over all open space we had. My spouse doesn't want to put his clothes away in the closet or the dresser.
The trick is learning to find a way that both partners can feel comfortable.
My spouse will share with me some really great idea he got from someone and explain with excitement how he is going to put into practice - the exact same thing that I had been suggesting for years. A very common event that happens marriages - both ADHD and Non - across the nations - but it still burns my butt.
I would like a common schedule that we all could follow - at least basic things like dinner times, times to turn off the TV, Saturday and Sunday time sharing, bathroom use. My spouse is very easy-going and does what he wants when he want. Usually on a whim.
The trick is learning to find a way that both partners can feel comfortable.
I think he is rude to other in our family. He thinks he is upfront with his opinions.
I need to learn how to not make his behavior a reflection of me and our marriage. And understand why he can be rude to others, yet gets VERY offended and often ends relationships if someone says something that offends him.
I do not know how to justify in my brain that he can 'dish it out' but 'he can't take it.'
I think we need to discuss and resolve some unfinished matters. It is small relevance to hear him say, "I am sorry" because he is told he is supposed to say it. It adds insultto injury when he will follow up with telling me he knows he is right.
We used to be able to attend family parties together. Now my spouse does not like to go because he doesn't want to be around So-and-So,,, which is an ever growing list.
I need to learn how to be Liz, and not a couple.
I started out in counseling because I felt I got lost in our relationship. My opinions only mattered if my spouse agreed with them. He would get mad if he didn't get his way, since his way was the right way, and mine made no sense to him. I felt very controlled by his anger.
I am learning to be self reliant. I still do the administration of his construction business since everything we have - including our debt - is tied up together. I feel we both have a lot to do. He feels he does the lion's share, "I do not have a job that pays any income" - and in comments like that he shows no value in the work I do for his business. Funny thing, if we separate, he will have to do all his own paperwork, or hire a bookkeeper.
I had hoped we would find a way to work things out together. He is shutting himself off from me and our families. I thought he was angry. Now, he is also a bully. "I am the man of the house, I need to proclaim my rightful place."
I continue to take college classes. I continue to apply for jobs. I do not have any plans to get a job to pool our finances. I plan to find a job so I can support myself, and start a new life.
I thought counseling would fix my marriage. It has surely helped me see that if someone does not want to address how they may be adding to the problem - things will never get better. Oh, unless I revert to my behavior 5 years ago, and let him be right, back down from everything, and throw in the towel on being seen, heard or respected in a way that I need.
Our relationship is not about who is right and who is wrong. It is about acceptance and honor and working things out together. I don't have that, and it is just not acceptable any more. Doesn't make my spouse bad - it just makes him someone I do not want to be close to or with whom I enjoy spending time.
Liz
I hear you, Liz. I didn't
Submitted by WornOutMB on
I hear you, Liz. I didn't have a husband willing to work it out together. He left, filed for divorce and we're now at the beginning of working the divorce out. I made my first court appearance Friday. It would not have been my choice not to work it out but I also know I could not and will not live the way we were. 29 years was all I could handle. I am now working in the schools as a substitute teacher, running my own small business and finally feeling like I may recover the person I felt I lost a long time ago. I am still sad. I still wish it would have been different. I regret what it all is doing to our 15 year old son. But I have to move forward, trust in God to lead me in the right direction and have a life He wants for me. I hope and pray that your situation improves.
WornOutMB,
Submitted by I'm So Exhausted on
WornOutMB,
Thanks for your words of encouragement. I too have to move forward, trust in God to lead me in the right direction and have a life He wants for me.
I love this quote I just found from Dr. James Dobson: A woman is usually comfortable in following masculine leadership if her man is loving, gentle, and worthy of her respect.
I am left struggling with all my own mindsets: You never give up on your marriage. If you want a good marriage, it is up to you to make it that way. The marriage, the marriage, the marriage, the marriage, the marriage. . . . . . . . . . . . .
I feel as I have twisted myself into knots, turned myself upside down, inside out, and backwards with the focus on marriage. Probably the hardest thing for me is to have to claim defeat after 30 years of marriage. Unbelievable. Disheartening. Incredibly sad.
I get almost giddy thinking about the possibilities of choosing a car all by myself. Having the sort of living arrangements that bring me joy. Having a schedule for my day. Having days off from work. Visiting family, and enjoying friends. I miss all that. At one time, in my early 20s, I was very self reliant. Had a band new apartment, a brand new car, and a great job with benefits and retirement. Chose to give that all up at the request of my new spouse. The end result was not what I ever imagined. In my gut, I knew it was not the right thing to do, but I was so-o in love, and wanted to please my new husband. A recipe for disastrous marriage - for sure.
When any person, whether it be the husband or the wife - gives up themselves to please the other - boy, that is so not a good thing. I found that out the hard way. Sure took me a long time though.
Liz
Hi Liz...
Submitted by c ur self on
(I like things neat and tidy - not obsessive - and things put away when they are finished being used. My spouse likes everything right out where he can find it. The counter is a landing spot for anything and everything.)
(The trick is learning to find a way that both partners can feel comfortable.)
Just reading your post and thought I would chime in:)...I to feel as you do concerning your first statement here...Keep the counter's, bar, and table useable...Seems like a sane thing to do, right? lol....She just jukes up every flat surface. It seems like it hurts her feelings if a spot is not covered...lol...
I also use to think just like your second statement also! Because hey!...I live here also, right?
Ain't happening! ....So, I am learning to choose my battles...If someone is just completely incapable or completely un-willing to change something about themselves...(Their ways!)
I have to ask myself; c ur self or you going to place this expectation on this thing that says you have to be comfortable with the end product, when you know the end product will never make you comfortable?
This is a simple example of why I have more peace these days....There are some realities to us coexisting in the same house in a loving, understanding and respectful manner....Clutter,is definitely one :)...Heck my wife gets emotionally attached to every piece of junk here...And there's a story to go along with it...LOL...:)
I've already decided, if I out live her...One of the first things I will have to do is rent a open top dumpster...;)...If she out lives me, well...Sorry kids...lol..
Blessings Liz...